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An Ode to Hip Hop
HankA

The words you quickly choose,
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   flow via the path of least resistance.
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and you sling your insults, in a fashion that is "all for naught".
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But, it's not your fault, you were never taught.
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You are in a world where everyone's been wronged.
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Some of it on purpose, and some of it unintentionally.
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Forget it, shut the fuck up.
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Try reading something from Men that went to a University.
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9 Feb 07

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If this is as heavily steeped in irony as I hope it is, then I think it's good.  I could explain more, but I'd like to know first if it is.
 — vardaman

Yes it seems sadly intentional.  If the glib repetitions of more academic work that has failed to address the more interesting ideas, advances and artistic innovations of the 20 th century you could surely do it with a little wit?  Otherwise this seems to me of mean spiritted repressive sour grapes... shutting up the disadvantaged has too ugly a history.  I agree it is a shame that the music industry has encouraged a de-politicization of the form and that without the Malcolm X quotes
it has lost lost something; prison was his university and words his thesis; as with all ideas I think the main problem is with publishers and record companies whose interest is economic and the educated hacks who work for them.
 — unknown

Hmm...The more I read it, the more I think that unknown is right about the intention.
I think the words were quickly chosen.
And personally, I'd take "shut the fuck up" to be the path of least resistance.
University can be overrated.  It is certainly not the sole indicator of intellect.
I'm not saying that Hip-Hop is glorious, I just believe there are better ways of going about this poem, because I know I have heard more beautiful things in rap.
 — vardaman

Again, written in 2 minutes while at coatcheck.
 — HankA

sick shit, you ought to be shot. Pious git. And it's clumsily written.
 — unknown

Hmmmm...I come from a world (the Old School R&B Movement) during which Rap was first introduced and Rap/Hip Hop then is not what Rap/Hip-Hop is now.  I come from the times when it was about the "hotel, motel, Holiday INNNNN...," so yes, your ode to Hip Hop holds a certain validity.  However, "back in da day," Rap was also based pretty heavily on insults i.e. "Ya Mama" by Wuf Ticket, "Rapper's Delight" by The Sugar Hill Gang and a host of others.  MY question is, "how can one's musical preference even equate with intellect?  I have a high school diploma, love R&B and am bilingual in Spanish as a second language.  College never taught me that.  I've also been nominated for a Pushcart Prize.  College didn't influence that either.  I will admit, however, that some of the heavily profanity-based Rap can get a bit under my skin more than it incites me.  This seems more like your own opinion and your own opinion seems highly generalistic.  Not all Rap/Hip Hop is this lacking in intelligence; only some of it.  I could never rate this for the fact that its content is as "on" as it is "off."  You need to explore the deeper depths as well as the origins of Hip Hop/Rap upon which to base your observations.  
 — starr

p.s.  A good example of "good" and "intelligent" Hip Hop/Rap would be "Just the Two of Us" by Will Smith, which deals with the theme of single parenthood (fatherhood) and which samples Bill Wither's hit by the same name.  There are a great many social messages in Rap/Hip Hop that are as proactive as there are equally as destructive messages.  I think, as in poetry, that it all revolves (in a very social way) around where one grows up, is educated, works, attends church, etc...I hope none of this is found offensive.  I'm sharing some of my own (as a Rap/Hip-Hop fan) thoughts/ideas.  
 — starr

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