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re: failure as a popular poet unknown 29 Jan 07 9:29PM |
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you lied when you said this site was without worth and that you were leaving, mike.
> oh, i totally am having a life. that's what my poetry has been based
> on. i'm not sure what my role is here? i thought i was just another
> participant. maybe it's just that i always have something to say.
> but, notice the threads i don't post in. ever. like, if you started
> one on "american idol", i'd have nothing to say.
>
> i am normal. this is normal for me. i'm an artist. i'm sixty, by the
> way, and don't feel... well, i've got cancer and i've only got
> about a year and a half, they say, and i wanted to simply say what i
> know and get feedback so that i'd know how to say. i think i have to
> be very honest, never lie, and that that's the way i will pass into
> the next state of being. i think the product is, no matter how
> unsettling to everyone, that i say real things about art and believe
> in art. no matter how much fudge is thrown by kids, about how there is
> no this and that, when they become poets, finally, they're have in
> the back of their mind that someone else was a poet too, and that
> it's ok, cause people always treat poets like idiots. remember that
> thing, "never give up". everyone wants me to put on a red wool
> jacket and rake leaves and tell them stories. i'm a nudist.
>
>
> > Mike, I say this kindly but perhaps you need to get a life apart
> from
> > writing, get a second perspective. You are WAY too into this for
> your
> > own good and definitely for our own good! hahaha
> >
> > I understand philosophical thinking but do you ever let your guard
> > down and think normal, not 'deep?"
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re: failure as a popular poet mikebauer 29 Jan 07 9:30PM |
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no, i write classical music: string quartets and, once, even, a ballet. i've written 24 symphonies! i love to write music, and i'll be writing it again probably in april... right now i'm writing prose, and i write stories and plays. also, i'm a visual artist and i make films and photos and i draw and paint. i don't do scupture anymore though. i have 12 photographs in the Getty Museum in LA -- in the Wagstaff Collection, if you ever want to see them. i'm totally arty. the only odd thing probably is why i'm here, but you are creative people: you, inspite of what you're laying on me, are all very chatty people and are quick to respond and mean as shit. that's constructive for me. it makes me understand what i'm trying to understand about my own creativity. if this were just an afternoon of you hearing me read, my resonant voooooice, and talking with you all, you'd mostly love me, cause my poetry reads so well. i can deal with this place, you guys can deal with me.
> Is poetry really your only outlet for creativity? I love to write and
> I need to do it but I have to do other things, too, or my mind gets
> numb.
>
> I can teach you how to crochet and decoupage or how to sew a doll, if
> you want! I've won ribbons at the Orange County Fair for my work and
> I am an excellent teacher!
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re: failure as a popular poet mikebauer 29 Jan 07 9:32PM |
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i lied cause i wanted one more kiss from you. one more tender moment, where we could share DNA and talk about brokebutt mountain and REM. i cuddn't help it.
> you lied when you said this site was without worth and that you were
> leaving, mike.
>
>
> > oh, i totally am having a life. that's what my poetry has been
> based
> > on. i'm not sure what my role is here? i thought i was just another
> > participant. maybe it's just that i always have something to say.
> > but, notice the threads i don't post in. ever. like, if you started
> > one on "american idol", i'd have nothing to say.
> >
> > i am normal. this is normal for me. i'm an artist. i'm sixty, by
> the
> > way, and don't feel... well, i've got cancer and i've only got
> > about a year and a half, they say, and i wanted to simply say what i
> > know and get feedback so that i'd know how to say. i think i have
> to
> > be very honest, never lie, and that that's the way i will pass into
> > the next state of being. i think the product is, no matter how
> > unsettling to everyone, that i say real things about art and believe
> > in art. no matter how much fudge is thrown by kids, about how there
> is
> > no this and that, when they become poets, finally, they're have in
> > the back of their mind that someone else was a poet too, and that
> > it's ok, cause people always treat poets like idiots. remember that
> > thing, "never give up". everyone wants me to put on a red wool
> > jacket and rake leaves and tell them stories. i'm a nudist.
> >
> >
> > > Mike, I say this kindly but perhaps you need to get a life apart
> > from
> > > writing, get a second perspective. You are WAY too into this for
> > your
> > > own good and definitely for our own good! hahaha
> > >
> > > I understand philosophical thinking but do you ever let your guard
> > > down and think normal, not 'deep?"
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re: failure as a popular poet unknown 29 Jan 07 9:32PM |
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you're a liar, mike.
> i lied cause i wanted one more kiss from you. one more tender moment,
> where we could share DNA and talk about brokebutt mountain and REM. i
> cuddn't help it.
>
> > you lied when you said this site was without worth and that you were
> > leaving, mike.
> >
> >
> > > oh, i totally am having a life. that's what my poetry has been
> > based
> > > on. i'm not sure what my role is here? i thought i was just
> another
> > > participant. maybe it's just that i always have something to say.
> > > but, notice the threads i don't post in. ever. like, if you
> started
> > > one on "american idol", i'd have nothing to say.
> > >
> > > i am normal. this is normal for me. i'm an artist. i'm sixty, by
> > the
> > > way, and don't feel... well, i've got cancer and i've only got
> > > about a year and a half, they say, and i wanted to simply say what
> i
> > > know and get feedback so that i'd know how to say. i think i have
> > to
> > > be very honest, never lie, and that that's the way i will pass
> into
> > > the next state of being. i think the product is, no matter how
> > > unsettling to everyone, that i say real things about art and
> believe
> > > in art. no matter how much fudge is thrown by kids, about how
> there
> > is
> > > no this and that, when they become poets, finally, they're have
> in
> > > the back of their mind that someone else was a poet too, and that
> > > it's ok, cause people always treat poets like idiots. remember
> that
> > > thing, "never give up". everyone wants me to put on a red wool
> > > jacket and rake leaves and tell them stories. i'm a nudist.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mike, I say this kindly but perhaps you need to get a life apart
> > > from
> > > > writing, get a second perspective. You are WAY too into this
> for
> > > your
> > > > own good and definitely for our own good! hahaha
> > > >
> > > > I understand philosophical thinking but do you ever let your
> guard
> > > > down and think normal, not 'deep?"
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re: failure as a popular poet unknown 29 Jan 07 9:35PM |
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what symphonies have you written? can we find them anywhere? are there recordings?
> no, i write classical music: string quartets and, once, even, a
> ballet. i've written 24 symphonies! i love to write music, and i'll
> be writing it again probably in april... right now i'm writing prose,
> and i write stories and plays. also, i'm a visual artist and i make
> films and photos and i draw and paint. i don't do scupture anymore
> though. i have 12 photographs in the Getty Museum in LA -- in the
> Wagstaff Collection, if you ever want to see them. i'm totally arty.
> the only odd thing probably is why i'm here, but you are creative
> people: you, inspite of what you're laying on me, are all very chatty
> people and are quick to respond and mean as shit. that's constructive
> for me. it makes me understand what i'm trying to understand about my
> own creativity. if this were just an afternoon of you hearing me read,
> my resonant voooooice, and talking with you all, you'd mostly love
> me, cause my poetry reads so well. i can deal with this place, you
> guys can deal with me.
>
> > Is poetry really your only outlet for creativity? I love to write
> and
> > I need to do it but I have to do other things, too, or my mind gets
> > numb.
> >
> > I can teach you how to crochet and decoupage or how to sew a doll,
> if
> > you want! I've won ribbons at the Orange County Fair for my work
> and
> > I am an excellent teacher!
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re: failure as a popular poet mikebauer 29 Jan 07 9:41PM |
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no, cause i just re-started comp about 10 years ago, and i keep them low... they're sort of classical symphonies anyway, and they're about melody and stacking melody so the whole stack comes out like a nice lasagna. i've had two offers, but i'd rather keep writing. that's sort of why i haven't done a collected works.
i did use the symphonies in film score though, for two films... using movements from them. that was satisfying.
after i decide who is going to get my stuff, then they'll probably make the films available at the museum. that's enough. and then maybe i'll have a DVD like brackage had made of his stuff... i think he's way better sometimes than i ever am, though his new stuff sucked.
> what symphonies have you written? can we find them anywhere? are there
> recordings?
>
>
> > no, i write classical music: string quartets and, once, even, a
> > ballet. i've written 24 symphonies! i love to write music, and
> i'll
> > be writing it again probably in april... right now i'm writing
> prose,
> > and i write stories and plays. also, i'm a visual artist and i make
> > films and photos and i draw and paint. i don't do scupture anymore
> > though. i have 12 photographs in the Getty Museum in LA -- in the
> > Wagstaff Collection, if you ever want to see them. i'm totally
> arty.
> > the only odd thing probably is why i'm here, but you are creative
> > people: you, inspite of what you're laying on me, are all very
> chatty
> > people and are quick to respond and mean as shit. that's
> constructive
> > for me. it makes me understand what i'm trying to understand about
> my
> > own creativity. if this were just an afternoon of you hearing me
> read,
> > my resonant voooooice, and talking with you all, you'd mostly love
> > me, cause my poetry reads so well. i can deal with this place, you
> > guys can deal with me.
> >
> > > Is poetry really your only outlet for creativity? I love to write
> > and
> > > I need to do it but I have to do other things, too, or my mind
> gets
> > > numb.
> > >
> > > I can teach you how to crochet and decoupage or how to sew a doll,
> > if
> > > you want! I've won ribbons at the Orange County Fair for my work
> > and
> > > I am an excellent teacher!
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re: failure as a popular poet unknown 29 Jan 07 9:45PM |
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so, not even the films are available? why do you talk about your music so much but share none of it?
> no, cause i just re-started comp about 10 years ago, and i keep them
> low... they're sort of classical symphonies anyway, and they're
> about melody and stacking melody so the whole stack comes out like a
> nice lasagna. i've had two offers, but i'd rather keep writing.
> that's sort of why i haven't done a collected works.
>
> i did use the symphonies in film score though, for two films... using
> movements from them. that was satisfying.
>
> after i decide who is going to get my stuff, then they'll probably
> make the films available at the museum. that's enough. and then maybe
> i'll have a DVD like brackage had made of his stuff... i think he's
> way better sometimes than i ever am, though his new stuff sucked.
>
>
> > what symphonies have you written? can we find them anywhere? are
> there
> > recordings?
> >
> >
> > > no, i write classical music: string quartets and, once, even, a
> > > ballet. i've written 24 symphonies! i love to write music, and
> > i'll
> > > be writing it again probably in april... right now i'm writing
> > prose,
> > > and i write stories and plays. also, i'm a visual artist and i
> make
> > > films and photos and i draw and paint. i don't do scupture
> anymore
> > > though. i have 12 photographs in the Getty Museum in LA -- in the
> > > Wagstaff Collection, if you ever want to see them. i'm totally
> > arty.
> > > the only odd thing probably is why i'm here, but you are creative
> > > people: you, inspite of what you're laying on me, are all very
> > chatty
> > > people and are quick to respond and mean as shit. that's
> > constructive
> > > for me. it makes me understand what i'm trying to understand
> about
> > my
> > > own creativity. if this were just an afternoon of you hearing me
> > read,
> > > my resonant voooooice, and talking with you all, you'd mostly
> love
> > > me, cause my poetry reads so well. i can deal with this place, you
> > > guys can deal with me.
> > >
> > > > Is poetry really your only outlet for creativity? I love to
> write
> > > and
> > > > I need to do it but I have to do other things, too, or my mind
> > gets
> > > > numb.
> > > >
> > > > I can teach you how to crochet and decoupage or how to sew a
> doll,
> > > if
> > > > you want! I've won ribbons at the Orange County Fair for my
> work
> > > and
> > > > I am an excellent teacher!
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re: failure as a popular poet mikebauer 29 Jan 07 9:52PM |
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you'd have to be me to understand. i started out writing the usual 12 tone serial stuff, and then burnt it in my third year, the same time i quit harvard, and gave over only to poetry, which i'd done, but, didn't understand -- i was expressionist, but scattered... like the little genius that doesn't edit, all that shit. music is so much of me, and i always have it in my head. right now it's a mozart thing... and i relate very kinetically to music, so even my typing this out has melody value to me... and i don't know what that would mean to you. i'd just seem fruity and musical to you, if you were to be in my head.
> so, not even the films are available? why do you talk about your music
> so much but share none of it?
>
>
>
> > no, cause i just re-started comp about 10 years ago, and i keep them
> > low... they're sort of classical symphonies anyway, and they're
> > about melody and stacking melody so the whole stack comes out like a
> > nice lasagna. i've had two offers, but i'd rather keep writing.
> > that's sort of why i haven't done a collected works.
> >
> > i did use the symphonies in film score though, for two films...
> using
> > movements from them. that was satisfying.
> >
> > after i decide who is going to get my stuff, then they'll probably
> > make the films available at the museum. that's enough. and then
> maybe
> > i'll have a DVD like brackage had made of his stuff... i think
> he's
> > way better sometimes than i ever am, though his new stuff sucked.
> >
> >
> > > what symphonies have you written? can we find them anywhere? are
> > there
> > > recordings?
> > >
> > >
> > > > no, i write classical music: string quartets and, once, even, a
> > > > ballet. i've written 24 symphonies! i love to write music, and
> > > i'll
> > > > be writing it again probably in april... right now i'm writing
> > > prose,
> > > > and i write stories and plays. also, i'm a visual artist and i
> > make
> > > > films and photos and i draw and paint. i don't do scupture
> > anymore
> > > > though. i have 12 photographs in the Getty Museum in LA -- in
> the
> > > > Wagstaff Collection, if you ever want to see them. i'm totally
> > > arty.
> > > > the only odd thing probably is why i'm here, but you are
> creative
> > > > people: you, inspite of what you're laying on me, are all very
> > > chatty
> > > > people and are quick to respond and mean as shit. that's
> > > constructive
> > > > for me. it makes me understand what i'm trying to understand
> > about
> > > my
> > > > own creativity. if this were just an afternoon of you hearing me
> > > read,
> > > > my resonant voooooice, and talking with you all, you'd mostly
> > love
> > > > me, cause my poetry reads so well. i can deal with this place,
> you
> > > > guys can deal with me.
> > > >
> > > > > Is poetry really your only outlet for creativity? I love to
> > write
> > > > and
> > > > > I need to do it but I have to do other things, too, or my mind
> > > gets
> > > > > numb.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can teach you how to crochet and decoupage or how to sew a
> > doll,
> > > > if
> > > > > you want! I've won ribbons at the Orange County Fair for my
> > work
> > > > and
> > > > > I am an excellent teacher!
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re: failure as a popular poet unknown 29 Jan 07 9:56PM |
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sounds like you just like to talk about the things you've done, but not have to show anybody what you've actually produced.
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re: failure as a popular poet mikebauer 29 Jan 07 10:11PM |
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you like to make cheap shots, and that's your product. and i have pictures in museums and books printed and poetry in magazines and.. what... other things too. i do enough, and i don't want to have to go through rehersals. i don't even like taking time to submit poetry. my stuff will get heard.
anyway, this is a poetry scene, and you've seen my poetry and i've seen what you guys can do with it.
> sounds like you just like to talk about the things you've done, but
> not have to show anybody what you've actually produced.
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