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re: Let's understand the problem with belief.  bologna  23 Jan 07 4:34PM Post Reply

we all state the obvious.

it is disgusting.

re: Let's understand the problem with belief.  mikebauer  23 Jan 07 4:35PM Post Reply

it's called "expression in writing" and it's how it's done in a writing site., d. bo.. it's a word sculpture trying to knock itself into three dee space: it's called, "literature", dum. b., and it's what we're here for.

> every so often mr bologna creates this argument for what purpose i do
> not know.
>
>
> it is pathetic that he keeps bringing this up, views unchanged.
>
>
> when the camouflage is old, try changing the scenery.
>
>
> dumbo

re: Let's understand the problem with belief.  chuckles  23 Jan 07 4:36PM Post Reply

you crazy, crazy goofball...
here is a little tale for you.
years ago, i had suspicion that my (at that time) soon-to-be ex-wife might be
alcoholic. as one of many attempts to exhaust every possible resource in the hope of saving my doomed marriage, i began attending meetings of al-anon.
al-anon, in case you're not familiar, is basically the same as AA, except it is for the
caring loved-ones of alcoholics.
never having been to AA, i assume that what i was told about the two (and indeed there is a third group called al-ateen, for younger participants) groups was true: the 12 step programs are basically the same. (they also have what they term the 12 somethingelses, the name escapes me)

i attended, "faithfully", for 3-4 months, even though it was obvious to all that my
marital status was irreparable.

the results were amazing to me.

one of the 12 steps is to accept that a "higher power" exists, in whatever form you choose to "believe". i commented, more than once, on the fact that the different people i'd met (and believe me, what a strange variety of folks) all seemed to be the "same", at their deepest level, or at least strikingly similar.

this is why the program works so well, i think.(their slogan, at meeting-end is "keep coming back-it works if you work it")

somehow, i "believe" humans to be genetically coded to have these beliefs- whatever they are. just as we're coded to procreate through heterosexuality.
just as we're coded to get the shits if we have something in our body that don't belong.

of course there are aberrations to the code. we are human, not perfect. this is why there are so many questioning this deep stuff here. this too, is likely something to do with the code of being a "poet", or philosopher, or whatever...

i'll tell you this, for certain
beyond
doubt

you're all very funny

thank you
good night

re: Let's understand the problem with belief.  mikebauer  23 Jan 07 4:40PM Post Reply

yes, but why were you meeting as just that group? and why, only, are remembering that one concept, blanking out on the way the coffee styrofoam had that odd shadow??? -- the alien space god of saazoo had you right where he wanted you.

> you crazy, crazy goofball...
> here is a little tale for you.
> years ago, i had suspicion that my (at that time) soon-to-be ex-wife
> might be
> alcoholic. as one of many attempts to exhaust every possible resource
> in the hope of saving my doomed marriage, i began attending meetings
> of al-anon.
> al-anon, in case you're not familiar, is basically the same as AA,
> except it is for the
> caring loved-ones of alcoholics.
> never having been to AA, i assume that what i was told about the two
> (and indeed there is a third group called al-ateen, for younger
> participants) groups was true: the 12 step programs are basically the
> same. (they also have what they term the 12 somethingelses, the name
> escapes me)
>
> i attended, "faithfully", for 3-4 months, even though it was obvious
> to all that my
> marital status was irreparable.
>
> the results were amazing to me.
>
> one of the 12 steps is to accept that a "higher power" exists, in
> whatever form you choose to "believe". i commented, more than once,
> on the fact that the different people i'd met (and believe me, what a
> strange variety of folks) all seemed to be the "same", at their
> deepest level, or at least strikingly similar.
>
> this is why the program works so well, i think.(their slogan, at
> meeting-end is "keep coming back-it works if you work it")
>
> somehow, i "believe" humans to be genetically coded to have these
> beliefs- whatever they are. just as we're coded to procreate through
> heterosexuality.
> just as we're coded to get the shits if we have something in our body
> that don't belong.
>
> of course there are aberrations to the code. we are human, not
> perfect. this is why there are so many questioning this deep stuff
> here. this too, is likely something to do with the code of being a
> "poet", or philosopher, or whatever...
>
> i'll tell you this, for certain
> beyond
> doubt
>
> you're all very funny
>
> thank you
> good night

re: Let's understand the problem with belief.  chuckles  23 Jan 07 4:42PM Post Reply

why?
why?
why?

it is not up to me to write for you, it is up to you to learn how to read me...

re: Let's understand the problem with belief.  mikebauer  23 Jan 07 4:44PM Post Reply

he did something to your body, then?

> why?
> why?
> why?
>
> it is not up to me to write for you, it is up to you to learn how to
> read me...

re: Let's understand the problem with belief.  unknown  23 Jan 07 4:47PM Post Reply

He posts here because he doesn't write poetry, so obviously he can't compete on that level with everyone else here.

re: Let's understand the problem with belief.  bologna  23 Jan 07 4:49PM Post Reply

chuckles. if you think carefully. and objectively. and reread my points.

you will realize. you are only substantiating my own claims.

re: Let's understand the problem with belief.  bologna  23 Jan 07 4:49PM Post Reply

> He posts here because he doesn't write poetry, so obviously he can't
> compete on that level with everyone else here.

believe in this person.

re: Let's understand the problem with belief.  chuckles  23 Jan 07 4:55PM Post Reply

> chuckles. if you think carefully. and objectively. and reread my
> points.
>
> you will realize. you are only substantiating my own claims.

sorry
i didn't read them the first time.
not gonna happen

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