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re: The Bible and Homosexuality  unknown  10 Jan 07 9:24PM Post Reply

>3) The whole thing about the word "choice". I was shocked to see it there and no >one really bringing it up. Presently, that seems to be the issue of whether or not >homosexuality is a choice or not. Science seems to be close to (or already has >proved) proving that it is not.


see the footnote of the poem below

http://poetry.tetto.org/read/25815/

re: The Bible and Homosexuality  unknown  11 Jan 07 10:59AM Post Reply

I have to say that after reading a lot and talking to many of my homosexual friends, I believe you're born the way you are.  Why should that be any different than heterosexuals?  I wish no one would ever find the "gay gene" because you know there will be parents who won't accept it and they'll abort the kid, just like they are allowed to do now if a baby shows Down's Syndrome.

There is danger in knowing too much about the preborn.  They deserve to be exactly what they are and loved for it.

re: The Bible and Homosexuality  unknown  11 Jan 07 11:00AM Post Reply

> There is danger in knowing too much about the preborn.  They deserve
> to be exactly what they are and loved for it.

a nice pair of slipper linings

re: The Bible and Homosexuality  Isabelle5  11 Jan 07 11:33AM Post Reply

Nightengale, read the rest of the story of Lot and his daughters.  The angels blinded all the guys who were coming to rape them, then they led Lot, his wife, and his daughters out of the town, just before a huge explosion of some kind destroyed it.  Scientists have found evidence of some huge cataclysm in that are of Sodom and Gomorrah, it's on-line someplace.  Lot's wife turned around and became a pillar of salt, remember?

The daughters thought that their father was the last living man and so they got him drunk and took turns having sex with him while he was not aware - which, when you think about it, doesn't make much sense.  If a guy is so drunk he doesn't know his own daughters, can he still get an erection??

Anyway, to set that story straight, the girls didn't just do it for fun, they wanted to help make more people in the world.  They had no way of knowing there was anything beyond the boundaries of their own little world.

Sort of like most people.  The very fact that we still label people as gay or black or fat or old means we are not yet as tolerant as we would like to be, seems to me.

re: The Bible and Homosexuality  unknown  11 Jan 07 11:39AM Post Reply

>.  Lot's wife turned around and became a
> pillar of salt, remember?
>
> The daughters thought that their father was the last living man and so
> they got him drunk and took turns having sex with him while he was not
> aware - which, when you think about it, doesn't make much sense.  If
> a guy is so drunk he doesn't know his own daughters, can he still get
> an erection??
>
You've gotta be shittin me, how selective of you - it's totaly unbielable that a drunk man may get an erection, but his wife can turn to a pillar of salt and hey yeah thats normal!

re: The Bible and Homosexuality  Isabelle5  11 Jan 07 11:54AM Post Reply

Hey, I'm just quoting the story since Nightengale said she didn't know what happened to the daughters.  

Creating a baby in a testtube used to be impossible, too.  All kinds of things can happen.

Why is it that liberals always tell conservatives  to keep an open mind but they close their own?  Interesting.

Imc

re: The Bible and Homosexuality  unknown  11 Jan 07 12:02PM Post Reply

how interesting that some people label anyone who disagrees with them a liberal. was it you the other day isabelle, who was harping on about people being judgemental about you, and how you weren't the sum of your words?

re: The Bible and Homosexuality  Isabelle5  11 Jan 07 12:04PM Post Reply

I'm not judging you.  I'm responding to how we all tend to say one thing and do another when it's convenient.

Welcome to humanity, it's a wild ride and nothing is usually what you think (or hope) it's going to be.

Isabelle

re: The Bible and Homosexuality  unknown  11 Jan 07 12:12PM Post Reply

It wasn't me, I'm a third party observer only. You are so fucking patronizing!

re: The Bible and Homosexuality  Isabelle5  11 Jan 07 12:14PM Post Reply

Well, if you signed your name, I'd know who was reading and responding to which comments.

I patronize no one.  I'm just responding to comments, like you are.  You're lucky, though, because I sign in and you know who I am.

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